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Disengaging clutch

I need to take some time to verify something, but I don't have it available. It's no joke that I go to school simply to have something respectable to do while I wander. Hopefully, someday I'll have time to think and a job that lets me do so. Too much trouble thinking here - too many clouding thoughts and distractions. I need serenity and background noise, not noise that demands my attention.

What really bothers me is that most of the people in the world feel they've got it figured out, and are terrified that someone will convince them otherwise. The very idea of shifting their own ideologies horrifies them, though they'll tolerate anyone else's that is innocuous enough. These types often frustrate me completely, because they'll ram it down my throat, but will hear nothing in return. And these people call themselves open-minded.

Generally speaking, I don't have that problem; but I catch it occasionally, and that kills me. My mental firewall will bounce all ideas into quarantine for processing, and if it checks out, an idea can percolate down to my core philosophy. Few things ever get that far (very few survive, indeed) and there's an awful lot of detritus floating around as a result. The longer I stay here in school, the more eroded my mental discepline gets, and that's a bad thing. All that can be done is stave off the sloppy thoughts that people keep throwing and hurling around until I can build up my framework again and begin processing anew.

I'm also rather insulted that my teacher in engineering management (formerly a eng. project course) thinks that we are unable to think without getting stuck on a single solution. I mean, really! Our whole job is figuring out the best solution given certain constraints - simply remove constraints and we ought to be able to be immensely creative. She tried to get us to find relationships between our product and random words, then get something useful out of it; squirt gun + "weed". No one raised their hand - and I certainly wasn't going to share one of the ideas I had, I wanted to see where she ran with it; awkward pain followed. The comparisons had nothing very useful to add, and she didn't mention stuff like how a squirt gun could kill weeds, how a gun might use an analogy to roots to refill its chamber, how the design could be organic... she just sorta was like, They both use and store water, see?" I feel like I ought to have a migraine every time I leave that class, and there's this part of me that is worried as to why I don't.


am I one of those people?
I don't know; you've shared only a little of your philosophy with me. Prolly less so than me - but then I've never really threatened your world view to know for sure.
Does this mean that you are offended by my beliefs?
I am a little miffed that you would simply say organized religion is a bad thing when I so clearly belong to one; moreso you'll have no looking at it's benefits.

I know an many people who don't care for organized religion (my mom even being one of them). That is what makes me feel threatened. Most who feel this way guard their beliefs just as strongly as one who 'has' religion, yet still claim open mindedness.

Organized religion has many benefits, a list I won't drone off here. What's important is that these benefits exist and are acknowledged and understood for their strengths as well as their faults. There are negative aspects of organized religion, but I think these can be tempered by balance. For example, a group must understand where doctrine ends and where a person must make their own choices; this is the ideal of living by principle and not law. Just as many claim religion is a method of regulating the masses, it should be obvious that this regulation is also self-motivated, and encourages a cooperation with law; to me, this sort of argument always sounded like saying we brain-wash our children to obey the law - sure it's true, but we brain wash them to understand why they should act a certain way as well (at least we're supposed to.)

To frankly make general, sweeping arguments and expect others to respect such an opinion - that offends me. One cannot use induction for everything; it is a sledge hammer that powerfully breaks down and divides large spans of logic and reason, but it becomes increasingly ineffective against the fine structure of reason - it misses the finer, more elegant points that lead truly interesting and insightful understanding.
It may be accurate to say that I feel threatened by organized religion. They knock on my door (quite literally, as you know), fight battles outside my house, and attempt to impose their beliefs on me. I grew up, blessedly, without it dogging my footsteps because my parents had enough of it as children. The number of times I have entered "a place of worship" can be counted on my fingers. I also moved around quite a bit, but you could always eventually feel the weight of "community" bearing down on the nonconformists. I went to public school. Don't think there's an escape there. Many people seem to believe that all the wrongs they do can be forgiven if they are viewed in certain terms by their religious affiliation. Others feel differently. Without elaborating, I have a lot of respect for Phil. Maybe I just have a beef with Christianity or the way it is handled in the average small-town community here in the god-fearing, bible-thumping Midwest. But the fact is that respect has to swing both ways. I'll never agree with you; I hate to be preached at. I'd rather shuffle around blindly in the dark and figure things out for myself. You'll never agree with me. That's fine. You know I have respect for you, if not your religious beliefs and excuse me if I view these as separate things. For a long while, I would think about certain aspects of Christianity or religion in general and be unable to stomach them. Then I would quite literally say, "But Andrew believes this. It must have merit." Ask Jed if you don't believe me. He came up with an answer to this that made sense to me. So maybe I just have a beef with Faith. And everyone who reads my lj knows how I feel about Faith. Rational or not, it's what my gut tells me. I think I'm gonna digest and organize a bit, then make a post on mine. But right now, it's 3am. Good night.
Just becareful of what you say. When you say something that someone believes in is bad within earshot, you can expect them to either take offense or defend themselves. There is a certain tone to take when talking to other people about such topics. I generally won't fight back much, but if you're not careful you could really drag yourself into an intellectual fist fight over saying something as benign as 'organized religion is a bad idea.' Expect people to fight back - hard - when you say such things; and those kind of discussions usually end two hours later with piles of casualties.
I realize this, but I have the right to speak my mind and I chose to at that point. I don't usually, so I guess people have come to conclusion that I don't have an opinion. They'd be wrong.
You mistook what I said. There's no doubt you've got a right to speak your mind. I merely cautioned to excercise it with tact - otherwise you should expect others to do the same but louder and with more passion. Free speech is a double edged sword that way (and I've cut more than my share; I try not to fight much because of it.)